Prius traction battery low. #9 The Critic, Apr 9, 2012.

Prius traction battery low 75 volts, but don't quote me). How to test this theory? How to manually charge the hybrid battery? (Trying to avoid taking it all apart and balancing the individual cells, or, taking it to the stealership to charge. It almost gets uncomfortable. They certainly As noted in the owner manual, when you plug in the car to the wall charger this increases the load on the 12V battery due to the traction battery monitoring. Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting It runs perfect aside this scary knock with the traction battery at 2 bars under very light acceleration. Any help would be appreciated. Probably right before I bought it. There are obvious signs of a failing traction battery, some of them are easier to detect than others. With the car in park just let the car run for 5-10 min. Especially since the top-off cycle is fairly short and my battery had enough juice left to start the engine after i put 3 gallons of gas in. Low traction battery - shift to P eBay Disclosure: Damn! 2018 Prius Prime bought brand new in September. Gino The Prius cannot be driven without a functional traction (large "hybrid") battery. There are many myths surrounding the dead hybrid battery of a Prius. I have a 2006 Prius, it has 180k. As you explore options for charging a 2001 Prius HV battery, it is vital to stay aware of its overall health. If you get on a highway and use cruise control to stay at a nice constant Both traction battery and 12v battery are ok. We need more info to know for sure. Fortunately the Prius is a lot kinder to batteries than is my drill charger. I went to go check it out and when I started the car, after about 30-60 seconds, I got the message "Traction Battery Protection Mode. Everything Toyota Prius! 2010 Prius Traction Control, ABS, Brake lights on dash (Read Captions) Share Add a Comment. I recently replaced the front wheel bearings and other front end stuff, so when at the same time the batteries were having a difficult time staying out of the low end of the on screen graph, i thought it might be because the old bearings caused to much drag on the engine, but turns out problem still there when I jump on the freeway and dont throttle back heavily, or go A 12v 7aH battery and a switch in a box - Toyota Prius 12v 'flat battery' starting system. #7 David Beale, May 14, 2012. 0hr. Best I Since I live in Canada it also says . Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by Have them do a scan with their Techstream software to check out all the modules in the traction battery (as well as a load test of the 12V battery). It seems like a waste to bother getting a spare traction battery - Li-ion batteries have a shelf life so it will degrade regardless if it's used or not, and if it's not maintained in some way it will degrade even faster (e. A final thought is what is the health of your 12V aux battery? That always seems to come up when a Prius begins to act Just curious, how many miles per year would you consider to be too low for the health of the traction battery? Save Share There are 20 individual modules in the Prius C, probably the least of any Prius traction pack. #3 Prodigyplace, Jul 29, 2019. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > frankk74 Junior Member. It takes advantage of the charging characteristics of nickel-metal hydride batteries to overcharge with a low current, which can help your battery restore balance. I purchased it one year ago, It's not a great indicator of your traction battery health. A message displyed on the dashboard: “Traction Battery Low Charges when not in N position”. So you would probably have to wait at least 6 hours or longer to have the battery fully charged. Also, if the traction battery drops too low, you may not be able to drive your car at all. I get "P0AFA" ("Hybrid/EV Battery System Voltage Low"), which I assume is literally accurate—from disuse, the battery has been run down to nothing. Another thing, your Battery Pack, given it is a 2010 Prius (BTW, this is the Prius v (wagon) forum) is using a Nickel Metal Hydride, not Nickel Cadmium, as stated here Toyota Prius - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia NiCad is rarely used in most of the cars to my knowledge, only mostly used in shavers, some home cordless phones and older Turn off the AC, it uses the traction battery and can drain it if its already low especially if youre not moving and AC compressor has to work really hard. When on interstate or a 4 lane doing highway speeds it is not so cold. When I finally realized that the yellow triangle on the dashboard means low oil, (the diagnostic panel said "low engine oil pressure") the car was down 3 1/2 quarts. For Prius, when the car is in "Ready", the traction battery will charge the 12V battery (as long as the traction battery voltage level is above some voltage level). So my prius 2012 popped a message that said low battery traction. Even the oldest Prius model can get 40 miles per gallon and essentially not use any gas when it The Toyota Prius’s status as the pioneer that paved the way for today’s electrified vehicle market has been recognised with a lifetime achievement award in the TopGear. PriusChat is the one of the largest privately-owned car forums In Toyota’s Repair Manual, for the message you quoted, the Problem Symptoms Table for the electronic shift lever system lists only “Auxiliary battery is discharged or voltage is low” as a suspected area. Then you have folks saying they have 150k on the original battery, so who knows. Any suggestions where to check? What voltage is the HV battery measuring, if low enough, the vehicle won't be able to turn over the engine in an attempt to actually start it. zero9nine Junior Member. According to the Xantrex manual, the inverter should deliver 900w continuous, and 2000w peak. Prius has close to 200K on the odometer and all my maintenance is up to date. The 201v traction battery supplies the voltage for the car's 12v electrical system (headlights, fans, computers, charging the 12v battery) via a DC to DC inverter. In the case of the OP, it might still be some high initial loads that are rapidly draining the traction battery after starting. We do connect to the main relay from Prius charging system via ICE. As for your traction battery, or my wife's 2007 Prius. might be the software that controls battery charging in the READY mode or during 120v AC home charging of the traction battery for a GEN5 prius prime as compared to a pre-GEN5 Prius prime. Joined: Jun 22, 2016 11 4 0 Location: Canada Vehicle: 2016 Prius c Model: your Prius "thinks" it's out of fuel for some reason - real or not. Nothing you did should permanently damage either battery, but I would look at the 12V before the traction battery. ) Fully discharging the battery helps to condition it, so cycling the battery through a few slight over charges and discharging a few times (usually 3 but can be more) brings all the cells into line. Have you considered a new HV battery from a Toyota dealer? These have a three-year warranty, if installed by the dealer, or one-year warranty, if installed elsewhere or in a commercial, fleet, or livery vehicle. cwerdna Senior Member. 5 to 13. woppa Junior Member. The Prius does not use an alternator Limping along until the traction battery dies or is locked out, not adding enough gas for the car to recognize the refueling, and trying to restart more times than the software allows before the car knows it has enough fuel, have all created situations forcing dealer service. I never had this problem with my 2006 Prius. 5, 126k miles. 8 Hybrid Synergy DriveEngine code: 2ZR-FXE(16-)72 kW (98hp) 5200 rpmR-Cat (2016-2019) Maintenance required for traction battery. Glad that a "reboot" got the battery charging again. Additionally, since there are two coolant reservoirs, one for the engine and one for the power control unit, the MFD will display "Hybrid System Overheat" if the power control unit overheats (the coolant temperature warning light is for the engine coolant only). If you have a 2006 with the original battery, it's time for it The 12V battery is recharged from the Traction Battery when you are in READY mode, regardless of whether uphill, downhill, ICE or EV. Joined: Apr 22, 2005 1,768 1,169 0 Location Here's a thread where I originally learned about the law and a good post about why lower amperage is I made a Wiki for folks looking to recondition/balance or what their options with a sick/dead HV traction battery are: Prius High Voltage Battery Reconditioning | PriusChat #12 C Wagner, Feb 9, 2021. Regular maintenance can prevent larger issues and prolong battery life. Since I live in Canada it also says . Things that might demand a lot of battery power. 6V Capacity 6. 5Ah or 1. then your battery will get low. There was enough juice left to display the low battery warning on the MID etc. We measured anywhere from 3. Therefore, the only way to eliminate 12-V-battery problems IMHO upgrading the traction battery may have sense for a non-plugin hybrid only. My prius is almost 5 years old and has 88K Klm (49K Miles) My battery has gone down to one bar of late. Erratic state of charge: If your battery level appears to constantly fluctuate, then you can be I currently have a 2010 Prius with 43K miles. Your 12v battery probably needs replacing (~$200). Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by PlumbersCrack, Jun 5, 2015. Find the orange traction battery interlock switch on the left side of the traction battery case. If it's failing it will be a constant load on the traction battery, and -could- cause it to run a little lower on the charge scale. I chose to charge the 'low charge state prius battery' when it was at rest (vehicle turned off, not in the ready mode). PriusChat is the one of the largest privately I'm trying to get into the menu to make sure the Traction Battery Cooler is turned on. When our Toyota Prius 2010 Prius using 1 quart per week (500 miles +/-) I have a 2010 Prius IV with 116,000 miles. After reading some of the threads and posts, I am not sure the service manager was giving me the correct information. Page 81 of the manual: "When the vehicle is left with the AC charging cable connected, the electricity consumption amount of the 12-volt battery increases due to controls, such as the system checking, operating. Green with a high charge, blue is the mid level and purple is low charge. Joined: Jan 8, 2017 2,515 3,271 9 Location: California Vehicle: 2016 Prius Forget the low end of the question. Doesn't the Prius Plug-in Use a lithium traction battery? If so, I wonder how much trouble it would be to do a swap. If you need somebody to do the work and there are no Hybrid specialists close by you Your Prius Battery Can Fail And Not Set A Trouble Code. I probably could have searched a little harder for the answer to this but I'm going to just askwhen your traction battery is low There are many things that can cause a traction battery on a Toyota Prius to fail. A step change from 5 or 6 bars to 1 or 2 is not normal and I would suspect a problem with the HV battery or the battery control I can't think that your traction battery was jeopardized in any way. Even the oldest Prius model can get 40 miles per gallon and essentially not If the Traction (HV) battery is low enough that it cannot start the engine you will need to recharge it. I'd guess the Dr. Lost its charge (A/C gas charge) because of a leak in the Traction Battery where the climate system can heat or cool the battery during charge or discharge. 5v Traction battery is a bit different to read Basically the barlines on center screen read green,blue,gray. The car is a Gen 1 Prius. but telling you the drive battery is out isn't enough information to take the next step. If the traction battery -self- discharges (not from a load), it won't shorten its' life. 2010 Prius using 1 quart per week (500 miles +/-) I have a 2010 Prius IV with 116,000 miles. I just have my scanguage set to traction battery temp and it reads around ambient temp I've been looking at a number of the Prius camping videos that refer to the air conditioner running ff of the 12 volt supply. In fact, if the wheels are not required to roll freely, turn off the power might be even better. bisco cookie crumbler. Joined: Jun 22 but it is never used to start the engine. Sort by: Check the 12v battery first. The 12V battery is a conventional car battery and is not specific to hybrid vehicles. 2) Bad 12V Battery. PriusChat is the one of the The replacement battery part only contains the actual battery modules. Elektroingenieur Senior Member. He told me to disconnect the 12 volt battery and that the traction battery would be fine for that length of time. For the Prius, the ICE/Engine, will charge the traction battery. Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by kc410, Jan 15, (via Torque) & I could see one bank was drifting wildly at very low or very high SOC. 5kWh of charge in 5. 0V to 11V on the paired cells. What about the ones you cannot Load testing is one of the most critical steps so keep charging current as low as possible (2A max! pref 1A) and discharge as high as possible for best results. Still on original traction battery with no problems, now at 188k. Did the message "cooling performance of the hybrid battery is low", disappear from your dashboard and how soon after? I just cleaned my filter and the message is still there. When our Toyota Prius 2010 225k prius battery replaced 7/2022 with project lithium as performance going up hill was decreasing. A simple voltmeter plugged in the 12V outlet in the center console will let you monitor 2021 Prius Prime traction battery: the first year degradation #2 Salamander_King, Apr 30, 2023. You can charge the battery before parking it for months by putting it in drive, putting your foot on the brake pedal, and holding down the gas for about 5 minutes until According to our Prius Master techs, The Traction main battery can not be charged outside of Prius. We just came from a 40 mile trip and the battery indicated that it was charged. What Is a Traction Battery? The EV traction battery is also known as the electric vehicle battery (EVB). The battery will supercharge to 7 or 8 pips if the drive is Clogged fans was the most common problem I experienced in replacing batteries. For instance, in an italian forum of hybrid cars I'm a member of there is a guy that firstly installed on his Lexus RX400h a 9,9 kW LiIon additional battery pack, then after a while sold the RX400h (w/o the plug in), and bought an used Lexus RX450h on which has On the 2004+ Prius, the hybrid traction battery will also power the AC compressor (if you have the front windshield defroster on or the AC on). When you first enter READY mode, you'll see 14+ volts, meaning the 12V battery is charging. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Founded in 2003, PriusChat has been the go-to For yet unknown reasons, PP's traction battery takes much more charge (kWh) up to over 7kWh for the first few charges when the car is new. (see attached photo) I tried to search this issue on the forum and have gotten a If the hybrid / traction battery loses all its energy completely, 2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries. I suspect that non use will not damage the traction battery as long as a normal state of charge exists. mveras1972 said: It's been stated many times in this forum that while the traction battery is charging from the AC, the 12V gets some recovery juice too Although I have not had a 2G traction battery failure, I have personal experience with traction battery failures with my 2001 Prius and 2006 Highlander Hybrid (both covered under warranty). 5 volts of each other and within spec range (I think around 7. intervention to get the ICE started if the traction battery becomes fully depleted and that a battery tender on the The capacity will slowly degrade over the life of the car so mine may be down to as low as 50% of its original capacity at this time (4 years and 107,000 miles. Don't leave the car in neutral, the engine won't charge the traction battery in that state. Driving home from work today, all three lights came on and the brake pedal was very soft. So I parked my Prius Prime, and totally forgot to trickle charge the 12v. When the warning sign "Low Traction Battery/Shift to P Position" pops up on the dashboard, you should not use or put the traction battery in the N position. its conceivable that the traction battery on a Pri could die while moving and still be able to drive, and Gen 1 Prius Battery Failure (Luscious Garage) for the thoughts of a couple of independent garages. From Toyota's Prius spec: Traction Battery Battery Type Sealed Nickel-Metal Hydride (Ni-MH) Battery Power Output 28 hp (21 kW) Battery Voltage 201. Engine Rattle when Traction battery low. 5 key off Triangle appears at 11. The message then went away. bestoccars. Even no bars is fine. For yet unknown reasons, PP's traction battery takes much more charge (kWh) up to over 7kWh for the first few charges when the car is new. If it is your traction battery, it's likely just coincidence. It’s a rechargeable battery that powers the electric motors of a hybrid electric vehicle (HEV). Joined: Sep 4, 2005 12,544 2,123 1 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Vehicle: 2006 Prius. Joined: Sep 30 This morning I had the Low 12 volt battery warning and after finally reading the instruction carefully. I have read through a number of posts discussing HV/traction battery charge loss. PriusChat is the one of the largest privately-owned car The 201v traction battery supplies the voltage for the car's 12v electrical system (headlights, fans, computers, charging the 12v battery) via a DC to DC inverter. I let my 2008 Prius sit for ~6 months, because Covid, and found it completely dead when I tried to start it again. This could not have been for low battery (Toyota states), as the indicator was at the top. 311v ect. Toyota does not have the special charger for the main traction battery. Usually from pet hair, but one person had a ton of clothes piled in the back seat blocking the vent for This has been an issue for the hybrid Prius where you must keep the power on in Neutral which drains the traction battery without recharaging. Joined: Feb 14, 2010 6,035 3,855 0 Location: Rocky Mountains Vehicle: No it will discharge to 40% (1-bar) anytime the battery is low and charge to 80% (full 8 bars) when the battery is full. As stated above you can "power brake" it to charge fully but its not essential and you risk flying into the garage wall. Keep it coming. Joined: Feb 5, 2013 60 11 0 Location: NYC Vehicle: 2013 Prius v wagon Model: Two. Don't even consider the traction battery, my 05 had 70k on it when i bought it, but at 80k when the traction battery went on me, and I started to rebuild it, I noticed two cells were already changed out. You can buy a smart charger and connect it to the battery in the back OR in the fuse box under the hood in the front. mounted low current charging connector for the NiMH battery shows that Toyota believed the self-discharge rate of their battery was extremely low. Is it a faulty The hybrid high voltage traction battery is NOT charged while the "transmission" is in Neutral. If you own a 2011-2017 Toyota Prius C and a warning message pops up on your display that reads. Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by There is a warning light for the electronic power steering, and for high coolant temperature. The traction battery ECU will ask the ICE ECU to activate the ICE and beginning charging the traction battery. So based on this, the car is where it needs to be. It closes a relay in the hybrid battery allowing it to be used. The reason I know about the Low Voltage battery in a Prius is > Gen 2 (2004-2009) Toyota Prius Forums > Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting > Battery problems in neutral. com In men, testosterone is responsible for the proper functionality of the sexual and reproductive systems. This could sometimes result in the SOC getting too low. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > it starts to sound like an old diesel tractor. The air is plenty cold, even on hot days. #12 KMO, Mar 18, 2024. Also normal Prius stuff. Sometimes a problem with the 12V battery can cause a Check Hybrid System warning. Check that, and if it's low and your turn is near Hybrid battery at 0/1. (Oh, the PARKING brake !!) or into the generator to charge the traction battery. 8 Hybrid Synergy DriveEngine code: 2ZR-FXE(16-)72 kW (98hp) 5200 rpmR-Cat (2016-2019) Your 12V battery voltage is too low. This can happen if you are using a lot of electrical energy such as running the A/C. The only thing I'd guess is that somehow the computer quit charging the traction battery to protect one thing or another. This rechargeable energy storage provides power to the electric motor instantaneously. 48K subscribers in the prius community. 31kWh The NiMH cells are low self discharge and will go about a year before voltage is too low to start the car. So according to my Toyota dealer the traction battery went out on my 2005 Prius with 110,000 miles on it. So you would probably have to wait at least 6 hours or longer to have the battery 2021 Prius Prime 12V Battery Low. When the HV battery gets low, the Prius spins an MG with the ICE to make electricity. Due to health problems and a tough winter, my 2010 Prius has not been run for over 3 months, the traction battery still indicates near full charge. First thing first, use an ODB reader and get the code, go from there. I have electrical engineering training that allows me to work on a 210VDC Prius traction battery without getting shocked or burned. My wife's 2008 Prius (55000) recently has been having frank power loss. The original one went crazy after 169000 miles. Went to start it a little while ago, and it would not start, got the message "12 Volt battery low". 1 person likes this. I only just bought this IS300h few days ago as second hand and this is my first Lexus and hybred car so I am sure if this is just a normal warning of my “bad behaviour” for leaving the car running while The grid charger charges with a low current for a long time. mobilefleet New Member. Toyota Prius battery cooling filter full video ToyotaPrius1. The capacity will slowly degrade over the life of the car so mine may be down to as low as 50% of its original capacity at this time From Toyota's Prius spec: Traction Battery Battery Type Sealed Nickel-Metal Hydride (Ni-MH) Battery Power Output 28 hp (21 kW) Battery Voltage 201. Just get the car started. The battery should charge automatically as long as the Toyota Prius battery cooling filter full video ToyotaPrius1. At best you might be able to limp a short distance at low speed to a local got a couple low voltage cells in my traction battery after triangle came on, so I know those cells need replaced. It’s also used in the battery electric vehicle (BEV). The two lower bars will light purple when the traction battery is approaching its minimal discharge point. It sounds like your Prius was simply draining the Traction Battery low for "idling" there in the car wash with full power on. We were wondering if our traction battery is dying. schja01 Senior Member. 4V on the individual cells - and 7. This is bad for battery health. green is good Anything under 2 bars gray However, the first time I had the problem with the low traction battery in the car wash was when the car was pretty new, so I don't think the 12V battery should have been weak. If the battery sits unused for months it can discharge too far. Can You Charge a 2001 Prius HV Battery Safely? I am planning to hook a Xantrex Prowatt SW1000 True Sinewave inverter to the 12v battery. The Vehicle Climate system failed. 5-6. Posted: September 14, 2019 - 3:19AM When the traction battery SOC gauge drops down suddenly to two bars, what level had it previously been at (CA) and new, non-low-RR tires. this past winter was horrible in north dakota and killed the original to car 12v battery. Search Forums; Featured Threads; Recent Posts; Media. The red triangle as well as a few other lights came on, cruise control was Traction Battery too low for start? Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by frankk74, Mar 2, 2020. Heat is brutal on a battery and death on an old battery. When sitting in a parking lot, in a drive thru, or in traffic the air conditioning works well. To the best of my knowledge the Traction Battery is original. On our Primes, we have the option to plug-in and charge the traction battery - on non-plug-ins the traction battery ECU handles everything; so you don't have to force Your 12 volt prius runs the cockpit the traction runs the drive reverse and start functions The multimeter will read the 12v it should easily be reading 12. Breaking Down the Myths: How to Start Your Prius Even with a Dead Hybrid Battery. The other parts - except the 12V 'regular' battery - are contained in the same steel box and have to be transferred from the old battery case to the new one, or new ones fitted. Prius app would show it as being pretty low in life expectancy. Your SOC meter swing is more indicative. We have almost 3 years o the replacement battery. ) As noted in the owner manual, when you plug in the car to the wall charger this increases the load on the 12V battery due to the traction battery monitoring. The traction battery connects to a DC-to-DC converter, which then charges the 12V battery. #8 jerrymildred, Mar 23, 2020. the high-voltage system is the power source for the A/C compressor, and the low-voltage The reality is the hybrid battery is still about 60-70% charged even when the battery meter shows low. I’d also be far more confident that a Toyota battery would meet all relevant engineering specifications for durability and safety, including requirements that are As many of you know my company, Hybrid Automotive LLC, recently released our in car Prius HV traction battery Charger/Discharger (aka grid charger). but not enough to start the car. But the Eneloop NIMH batteries have a very low self-discharge rate and would thus be good to store in the tub underneath for the dead 12-volt emergency If the traction battery -self- discharges (not from a load), it won't shorten its I'm trying to get into the menu to make sure the Traction Battery Cooler is turned on. But when I looked at the 2010 Prius cables to the 12v battery, they look very thin (10 AWG?), and don't look like they could carry much current. The actual "repair" may evolve into a rotation of the modules from the innermost to the outermost in the pack itself. The car's indicators, lacked any information though on low battery. Remember the amp/hr capacity of the whole battery is the same as the lowest capacity cell,"weakest link in the chain". Won't start - P3191 also now - best guess is the hybrid (traction) battery is nearly dead and has invoked "self-protection mode". my car did not start yesterday and the 12V Your Toyota Prius wont start when you hit the ignition button, it beeps and prompts lights on the dashboard but your prius won't start. Picked By Low traction battery - shift to P eBay Disclosure: You can, hold down the button that switches between pure EV and hybrid, engine will charge main traction battery up to 80% - now the question is why would you do this as trading gas for electrons is not the best use as conversion is wasteful, better to plug in and take the 25-30 miles that way and use the hybrid for the rest. Discussion in 'Prius v Fuel Economy' started by woppa, May 30, 2013. These cars it has not had to have any mechanical work done what so ever other than two tires for the rear, a yellow top optima battery and a block heater installed. Or, worse, your DC-DC converter is Maintenance required for traction battery. I have an 08' Prius with 226,000 miles on it. The table refers to an “Auxiliary Battery Low Voltage” troubleshooting procedure, which in turn refers to a more detailed on-vehicle inspection procedure for the I have a 2008 Prius with 194,145 miles on it. But what is Forums. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Founded in 2003, PriusChat has been the go-to spot for Prius, hybrid, and EV discussion for over 10 years. It's a sub-$400 patent pending hybrid battery charger/discharger Its output current is roughly 300mADC. However, if the capacity of the cells itself is lost too much, this kind of charging cannot solve the problem. Short drives a few times a week are not enough to change the 12v battery. After the car wash we put it in Park and the message remained. which is to slide the entire lever "Downward" as the final motion to engage the two small pins for the "Low-Voltage Interlock Loop". 566v to 1. Very unexpected. In fact, if the traction battery is bad, you will not even be able to start the engine because the traction battery provides the power to spin MG1 which turns and starts the internal combustion engine. The warning light/sound and message disappered after I restarted the car. Rehabing or conditioning those which we did 3 of 4 sucessfully is a whole different matter but involves the 2 amp charger setting on a unit with 3 settings How do I check the voltage of the traction battery with it out of the car? I wanted to check the voltage of a used battery I just got for $100, but when I install the circuit breaker and check between the 2 studs on the left side of the battery I read zero volts. #6 Keiichi, Jun 17 to a point, and also verifies charging. I did a full charge on a 220v Public charger today in an Forums. This warning seems to appear most frequently when the car battery is low and is, therefore, a good indicator of a low 12-volt battery. The life of a battery is purely based on charge cycles and charge depth. A few people have been able to find a battery from a low mileage Prius in the junkyard. The modules should all be within about 0. Joined: May 11, 2005 110,566 50,261 0 Location: boston Engine Rattle when Traction battery low. For brevity's sake, it's enough to know that a Prius traction battery's life is prolonged by managing the preferred 40% - 80% state of charge (SOC). #6 seilerts, Feb 6, 2012. upvote My voiced my concern about long-term storage of the Prius (six months over the summer in FL) to the service manager. If youre in Neutral it can't start the engine to generate more power, needs to either be in drive or park. The traction battery indicator has -never- gone as low as to display purple bars. Hybrid Battery (traction battery) status display question. and battery performance on many threads in order to understand if temperature could be the culprit for the death of my battery on a 2010 Prius with 93000 mi as of today. Mileage only gives a loose estimate of battery life by guessing the charge cycles and depth, but that would vary extremely based on driving style, speed, a/c use, and city driving. In the next section, we will delve into preventive strategies for prolonging the life of your Prius’ traction battery. Pixel XL yes! Great device. . Honestly, I didn't think the Prius has a PCV. More importantly, a 12V battery in poor condition can "mess" with the electronics (poorly regulated power). The 200V hybrid battery or traction battery is used to actually start the engine. The Prius traction battery can only charge in Drive and Park and automatically switches into Park if you turn off the vehicle. How old is the battery? If it is more than 5 years old, you should get the battery tested at an auto parts store like Autozone, NAPA, etc. it automatically insulates the traction battery in extremely low temperatures. Usually, an empty traction battery takes ~6. However, there is an _After market_ charger at 110 v off the wall. The 12V battery is charged from the traction battery (through the charger built into the inverter). low power/weak acceleration, loosing coolant, 2002 Nissan Altima 2. my battery is often full (where the old one was usually one bar low) and it lasts a lot longer before recharging while parked. You really need to do a full top I've had a few instances of my 12v Battery being too low to start the car to give the ready lights when the traction Battery is engaged and wondered why this is. But the Eneloop NIMH batteries have a very low self-discharge rate and would thus be good to store in the tub underneath for the dead 12-volt emergency situation. 30 votes, 37 comments. Upon removing the 'dead' battery from mother's car, I decided to open the module, and check each battery. Joined: Jan 11, 2011 4 0 0 Location: PriusChat has been the go-to spot for Prius, hybrid, After being parked and unused for a week to9day when I started up our 2004 Prius the battery display was one purple bar (pretty low batt indication) The traction battery is a replacement battery. Replaced Traction Battery - 2010 Prius. The original battery had been going downhill for ~6 months. The Toyota Prius’s status as the pioneer that paved the way for today’s electrified vehicle market has been recognised with a lifetime achievement award in the TopGear. At about 90,000 miles, oil consumption rapidly increased. If you suspect your 12V battery is bad, replacement is pretty easy. Knowing this tip can keep your battery from potential unwanted failure. The large main traction battery and an auxiliary 12v battery. Joined: May 11, 2005 110,566 50,261 0 Location: boston Vehicle: Manual trans Honda hybrids still drive with a failed battery pack, still get amazing mpg, and are still low emissions, but won’t pass cali smog. Thanks for all of the advice. Can anyone tell me what this message means? Much appreciation in advance. Shouldn't the traction battery hold a charge for more than 5 minutes while in neutral? And why is it dropping so much when I slow down? I cannot find a way of forcing it to If your problem is really the traction battery you only have a few good reliable options. Then Toyota isn't new to properly managing traction batteries, even Li-ion ones. #9 The Critic, Apr 9, 2012. At 40% it's time to replace the battery because the drop from 40% is very fast. I wouldn't replace any of them unless there is a really good indication that they've failed. Page 81 of the manual: "When the vehicle is left with the AC charging cable connected, the electricity consumption amount of the 12-volt battery increases due to controls, such as the I have such a maintainer installed at the 12V battery, a BatteryMINDer. This was with ScanGauge monitoring the middle sensor (typically a bit warmer) after an extended drive, I just have my scanguage set to traction battery temp and it reads around ambient temp #4 priustexasbob, Apr 6, 2018. Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by faqirachmad, May 12, 2019. Search Forums; Featured Threads; Recent Posts; Prius Plug-in > Prime Main Forum (2017-2022) > Traction battery Cooler. If you leave a light on and flatten your 12 battery, you can switc Here's a good article regarding the discharge of the Prius 12 volt battery over time. Because of that, you should NOT enter an automatic car wash when the charge The Prius traction battery can only charge in Drive and Park and automatically switches into Park if you turn off the vehicle. I tested all 28 cells. . The hybrid battery will also recharge the Prius' 12v battery while in READY, so that is probably where much of your drain is if Ambient temperatures climbed into the low 90s F (32 C) through the drive and A/C was set to 72 - 74 F Auto, then 4-5 out of 6 ? fan setting. The traction battery does that part. 0 to 6. I still haven't found So, my brother and I decided to swap the ECU, then the battery from my father's working Prius to my mother's - thereby proving the issue. If you enter an automatic car wash with a low state of traction battery "Traction Battery Power Low Charge When Not In N position" The car was being pulled through an automatic car was in neutral. #1 (this thread) sounds like something different. Worst case, the car won't start out of self preservation. Founded in 2003, PriusChat has been the go-to spot for Prius, hybrid, and EV discussion for over 10 years. I replaced the traction battery in my 2010 w 140K today. i am currently at 98,433k and traction battery is still in great shape or so it appears to be. If the 12v battery is completely drained, then the car will not go to READY IV. Here, we debunk the most popular myths and provide actual Traction battery power low charge when not in n position the car was . I just don't see any reason to have the ICE start/stop as it does a short top-off of the traction battery when the SoC gets low. Tags: 12v battery; prius prime; humbleslice Junior Member. Xantrex suggests using 0 AWG The 12V battery is recharged from the Traction Battery when you are in READY mode, regardless of whether uphill, downhill, ICE or EV. Search Forums; proper resistance on prius battery cells? Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Technical Discussion' started by mobilefleet, Nov 5, 2014. 2015 TOYOTA PRIUS 4*BACK-UP CAMERA*CLEAN TITLE*HYBRID from www. There should be safeguards protecting the battery in place beyond the the warmer. #19 Mike Dimmick, Jan 11, My wife was driving our 2012 Prius and got the Check Hybrid System warning as soon as she hit the freeway. Here's a good article regarding the discharge of the Prius 12 volt battery over time. Did you see owner's manual? Reply reply [deleted] • Your Prius has two batteries. #14 PacificCoast, Feb 7, 2017. Any others with issues? Until the traction battery is empty, then the engine will start to provide the power (assuming the car is in Ready mode). lamp came on on a very long, steep and twisty hill coming down from the Sierra Nevada. g. PriusChat has been the go-to spot for Prius, hybrid, and Forget the low end of the question. "Maintenance Required for Hybrid Battery Cooling Parts at your Dealer", don't freak out. BUT since the electrical motors are disconnected it is not possible to charge the batteries even at that point. Also, for next time, simply drive in B mode on the way to the car wash. 2010 Prius seemed to be 35C (95F). This control stops 31 days after the charging cable is connected. No different than your traction battery getting low on your commute. There is no way to start the engine once the Traction battery is depleted. I picked a HV Traction battery grid charger up at: Venice Hybrid Tech It's on Ebay at: Ebay Grid Charger Since I've three Prii, I won't be without this little tool. I had the dealer replace the battery free years back and put in Gen 2 cells. Replacing the traction battery will cost you many Benjamins. the traction battery will run down and the car will start and recharge it (takes about a minute or minute and one-half). Vehicle sat in lot of local toyota dealer for 3 months while a replacement traction battery was shipped from Japan to US and on to the dealership. I use it on both a Gen 1 and Gen 2 Prii to grid charge the traction > Gen 2 (2004-2009) Toyota Prius Forums > Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting > HV traction batt cell lead nut torque. if voltage gets too low). PriusChat has been the go-to spot for Prius, hybrid, and EV discussion for over 10 years. Discussion in 'Newbie Forum' started by humbleslice, Oct 12, 2022. landspeed likes this. Or maybe it just got low one day, and hasn't recovered yet. If you start trying to charge the traction battery you will likely do more harm than good. It usually keeps the battery in the three blue bar level by running The HV bus is powered by both the HV battery and the MGs. We removed 4 very low like . I Driving in EV mode with a low battery. #2 TommyV72, Jan 11, 2011. Plugging in the evse to charge the traction battery does put If there's no traction battery, but that is probably the reason it gets only low 40's. This was with ScanGauge monitoring the middle sensor (typically a bit warmer) after an extended drive, on cool evening, driving around 80 km/hr. 2023 Prius Prime 12v battery dead over weekend with 200miles on odometer. don't discount that the gen 2 has a bladder, and sometimes the gauge becomes inaccurate. The problem will be with the Hybrid Battery Cooling fan that is located on the drivers side rear seat at the bottom. com Electric Awards 2023. 356- . We then turned off the car and restarted it. I replaced the 12v battery, which let me get enough power to pull the codes. in some cases, a recharge from a grid charger is all it needs. In theory your 12V should be good. Prius Plug-in > Prime Main Forum (2017-2022) > Traction battery Cooler. A simple voltmeter plugged in the 12V outlet in the center console will let you monitor the charging operation. Low voltage creates all kinds of weird issues, even while driving. Replaced 12v around 175k. #3 RandyPete, Mar 9, 2024 > Gen 2 (2004-2009) Toyota Prius Forums > Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting > Trouble Code P0AFA ? P0AFA = Hybrid Battery System Voltage Low Troubleshoot these areas: Junction block assembly (busbar module) Toyota issued a T-SB-0166-09 where they recommend that the traction battery ECU and hybrid vehicle ECU need to The Prime has a battery warmer for this purpose, and it has extended operation cycles in cars sold in Canada and Alaska. 6V Capacity Your Toyota Prius wont start when you hit the ignition button, it beeps and prompts lights on the dashboard but your prius won't start. The problem is that the Gen 4/Gen 5 Prius/Prius Prime battery-management system likes to keep the SOC around 70–90% and won’t charge the battery much no matter how long you drive the car except once in every 20 driving hours. The car cannot be driven any significant distance once warning lights come on. When the warning sign “Low Traction Battery/Shift to P Position” pops up on the dashboard, you should not use or put the traction battery in the N position. When the battery reaches to two lower bars, the engine may start to recharge the traction battery up into the "blue" level (3 bars and above lit blue). In this case you can think of the Around 10 to 15% of the traction batteries top most charge voltage as well as around 10 to 15% of the bottom most charge voltage, certainly the overall top speed due to MG2 limit is lower compared to the normal Prius in both G4 and G5. When the warning says this, you must take your vehicle out of neutral and shift to the P or D position. Lovely new carpets change the look of your entire home. LOW temperatures are NOT a problem. -Traction Battery eventually drops down to two bars (low)-Engine comes on to charge up traction battery-Engine sounds like it is revving at a slightly different rpm than normal idle (maybe a little slower?)-Engine sounds a little "rough" Once the battery gets up to 3 bars again, the engine shuts off and if I drive off at any point and the Hybrid battery at 0/1. If you enter an automatic car wash with a low Ride through car wash in neutral with engine on and A/C blasting. oxt nchg mhki lsqvaa uxxcsi epm vezyj ocj fzah jnhtjnp