Recessed maxilla reddit I never had any orthodontic work done (such as braces) for the most part, however I did have wisdoms pulled abt a year ago and saw no changes from it (I still have the wide jaw w good maxilla and hollow cheeks), and will likely see no changes (if I do tho, I will just get surgeries). As a result you get a number of issues such as poor craniofacial growth, speech impediments and parafunctional facial muscle use eg buccinator Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now How do I fix a recessed maxilla (upper jaw) The diff b/w where it should have been and where it is But your jaw doesn't look obviously recessed, and the aesthetic benefits to women are not as significant as to men generally speaking. And you gotta mew hard all the time, forcing your tongue glued tight to the top of your pallet and hold it till it burns and you can't feel your face. so, i’m getting braces for my deep bite, im not sure if it will fix my maxilla which looks horrid. tragic that they’re all young too 👎🏼 social media body dysmorphia epidemic. in my opinion, my maxilla is recessed. It can't just be pulling the alveolar ridge. If you get a double chin it means that your maxilla is recessed. In this subreddit we discuss topics related to Orthotropics and Mewing with regards to humans of all… Jun 27, 2023 · A recessed maxilla can make the face less attractive, and cause functional problems such as misaligned teeth and mouth breathing. In this subreddit we discuss topics related to Orthotropics and Mewing with regards to humans of all… Hello I just got done having upper jaw surgery and to say the truth no pain and I can still talk/ drink water . In this subreddit we discuss topics related to Orthotropics and Mewing with regards to humans of all… Both of my parents have a good maxilla. No, you do not have a recessed maxilla. Yes, elastics can cause a recessed maxilla. Is it because they pushed down my teeth with elastics?… Now that I think of it, most people with recessed maxilla’s look uglier than people with recessed chins (this might be an exception if ur a male, since jawlines are more ideal for you). If your recessed maxilla is affecting your confidence or the quality of your life, you can have your recessed maxilla fixed by wearing braces or orthodontic headgear, undergoing dermal fillers and surgery, and I think this is the best way to go about it when you can’t new properly since the force that moves the maxilla forward isn’t hard pressure just from eating but constant pressure, which seems to me impossible with a recessed face. Nr. In my opinion, you hold your neck to the front normally to hide the downswung. Hooking a thumb behind one wisdom tooth and another thumb on the palate and pushing the whole maxilla forward on one side then the other may "stretch" out those sutures, especially since you are young. Learn more. I feel like my recessed maxilla making me look Asymmetrical though I think it's not very noticeable when I'm straight up facing someone but whenever I tilt my head to either left or right I always end up looking like two different people Maxilla forward growth would likely be granted through proper oral and body posture. Hypodontia gives the same effect as extractions, missing teeth leads to less bone therefore recessed and ugly. Rules. Your upper lip has a forward tilt, not the backward tilt characteristic of a recessed maxilla. You may need to take a side pic & check if you do have a negative orbital vector. Also weak under eye support. It is still retraction after all. I don’t know how anybody would believe that. You google an underbite and then cover up the lower jaw, thats what a recessed maxilla looks like, if you couldnt see the lower jaw to begin with or their lower jaw was recessed too then you would still know cuz the nose is sunken and theres like a straight verticle line below the persons eye indicating that the maxilla isnt pushing that area out. take a side profile picture and draw a line from your forehead to your chin. Look at Jordan Barrett, he has insane forward growth in both his mandible and maxilla, earning him one of the best side profiles of all time, yet his chin does not even Most of the comparison pics always show obviously recessed pics and obviously prominent pictures, ie weak chin vs strong chin. The thumbpulling should be pulling at the SUTURES of the maxilla, up high on your palate. Is it possible to have both a recessed maxilla and bimaxillary protrusion? I seem to have the hallmarks of both, very narrow dental arch, crowded teeth, poor under-eye support, scleral show(I noticed later I was squinting a bit so the scleral show isn't visible in the pic), and my upper gums are almost sort of bent outwards which causes my upper lip to protrude and look really bad aesthetically. Post op 2 weeks lefort 1 osteotomy 64K subscribers in the orthotropics community. I’m not talking about forward growth but upward growth. Posted by u/therapylime - 1 vote and no comments In this subreddit we discuss topics related to Orthotropics and Mewing with regards to humans of all ages. Tell me, do you have a lot of scalera-show? Google it if you don’t know what that is I get a lot of dark circles under my eyes, and I suspect I have a Recessed Maxilla. I'm 21 now and got MSE at 19. For example in this image I would say he is recessed but I have seen ppl post pics of the most normal looking upper jaws Ever where the lower lip is not behind the upper and ppl will say their maxilla is recessed. But this should be the last thing after having a healthy lifestyle and doing some exercise (lift some weights). Just try some slight towell pulling a few minutes a day. Funny how now Europeans select against a recessed maxilla and opt for more projection. Hello, I am diagnosed with a recessed maxilla (also narrow palate) & an underbite. As a kid they can anchor the appliance to your molars but as an adult they have to drill screws into your upper jaw in order for the expander to work, and even then it STILL fails in many cases! Idk if it’s tik tok but there’s clearly a toxic brain rot going around ‘cause too many people with strong profiles posting here asking if they’re recessed, ugly, done for, etc. the first picture was taken at date of post, the 2nd one is from when i was 8 years old. But you’ll have to wear the device 24/7 and for months on end. None of them have the recessed and retracted “resting bitch face” when the teeth come together that so many in the modern age get stuck with. They actually go hand in hand. I see people with recessed maxillas more than this with straight noses and people with a very strong, forward maxilla with hooked noses. it makes my nose look horrid and basically everything. My upper jaw is a bit more front of my face. Your genetics are almost everything. Before you post, have a read through our FAQ wiki! as well as the rules in the sidebar. Am I completely cooked with no… Same thing for a strong forward grown maxilla. 13 votes, 20 comments. Would probably also require braces at the same time. But the other thing you refer to in both I don't have any ideal what it is. They say that the "upswing" is a bit of an illusion, and that the maxilla can really only grow in down and forwards, so a recessed maxilla would be higher. we have all seen the pictures of the mouth breather vs the nasal breather and how the mouth-breather has a crooked septum with a large looking nose due to the lack of support from the maxilla. I had braces a few years ago and to align my bite was told to use elastics, apparently these work by pulling your lower jaw forward. also need to know if my palette is okay or not. thanks bro, quite a real answer i actually did have a jawline a while back lmao its just i haven't been to the gym in ages, i was just concerned about my asymmetry. For centuries the characteristic projected maxilla that sub-saharan africans have was ridiculed by westerners and also racial biologists used that trait to justify comparing us to apes and other primates. i am currently 14. That combined, even with "only decent" maxilla is more than enough to have a top face. Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now Recessed maxilla? Locked post. Having a recessed chin / mandible affects only a small portion of the face, whilst the maxilla (the beauty bone) affects more facial structure. I had a similar problem. I do have scleral show, despite having very compact, narrow eyes as a child. You definitely need maxillary advancement and counterclockwise rotation. idk if my maxilla is recessed or its just that I have a negative orbital vector I too have a recessed maxilla, and found out about it because I managed to dislocate my TMJ meniscus due to the stress my bite was putting on my joints (My bite was deceptively good, my lower teeth naturally compensated and it took an MRI to finally get my surgical team to say surgery was the best option after the ortho I originally went to for Hi, welcome to the orthotropics subreddit! Please read this in full. But your nose and upper lip itself looks fine. Share Add a Comment It's less to do with the shape of the palate and more to do with parafunctional (not normal) tongue use. 23yo r/Mewing • 18-20yo. just tryna make sure. We show before and after photos of people that used headgear to improve their recessed maxilla. There were some articles and blog posts that I think actually correct that have been posted here recently. should i get Bimax? (when i turn 18) i can afford it and i just want the best possible way to fix my recession. r/Mewing • 18-20yo. Posted by u/Independent-Way1744 - No votes and 2 comments You are recessed, all the empty space from between where the arrows form 90° angle should be mostly filled and the chin should touch the far right vertical arrow. Imagine your recessed maxilla as a cage, forcing your tongue to be pushed back into your throat, which will cause airway narrowing and a lot of arousals. . We expect all subreddit visitors to follow these rules: Rule 1) Be respectful. That'd give him the "optimal" mid-face. Reply reply Maxillary advancement creates more space in your upper airway. Life is great. Both Kristen Schaal and Heather Matarazzo have recessed maxillas. Chew a towell and slightly pull it to the front and a little bit to the sides the last minutes. Another good example of the difference btwn bones as a kid vs adult is expanders. i’ve noticed that even in ethnic plastic surgery patients, most of them have a recessed maxilla, forward head posture, tired looking eyes, etc. Given your age, MSE + Facemask will not pull your maxilla forward. Also maxillary advancement helps tongue base collapse by alleviating the tongue from resting posteriorly. Hi, welcome to the orthotropics subreddit! Please read this in full. Something I've noticed recently is that my maxilla is quite recessed, but that it didn't used to be like that. Mewing will draw the maxilla up and forward, bringing your chin forward as well. Your mandible looks great so maybe all you'd need is a slight maxilla advancement. 65K subscribers in the orthotropics community. Reply reply I'm 18 and I've recently discovered that I have Recessed maxilla. Not meeting an ideal isn't a bad thing and that was never implied in my comment. It’s so bad I’m too embarrassed to post an actual photo. It’s probably the reason why your nose lacks a prominent ridge and skin sagging. I thought it might be that that side is more recessed for some reason, but since even my jawline is thinner there, it might also just be due to less bone growth. Also jaw surgery is like, significantly more costly, risky, painful, and complicated than most cosmetic procedures. 1y and 10 months difference. Are you pushing your jaw forward in the 2nd pic? Even if so, IMO you aren't so recessed that it's a problem aesthetically. i actually took these pictures in the gym after my workout and have started taking better care of myself now, my hair is just sweaty lol however i should drink more water ill proudly take your advice bro Slightly recessed maxilla because of the paranasal volume around your nose. First let's talk semi-surgical options. I believe my maxilla is recessed (I had very bad crowding in my upper jaw so I must do) but my lips meets my lower lip. So hey its seems that i am getting extractions because of (bimaxxilary potrusion) will this help my jaw which is extremely small get broad and forward. In case of mandible, draw a line from your lower lip to the chin, if the line is straight, your mandible is not recessed but if the chin is behind the line it would be recessed. if you need more info just let me know. I've check on and found out that some of the causes are: thumb sucking in early childhood frequent use of a pacifier after you’re 3 years old prolonged use of bottle feeding in early childhood which I used to do when I was a kid. Yes, the maxilla extends all the way up to the eyes, so a recessed or downswung maxilla will make the bottom of your eyes look sagging too. biobloc and vivos dna have been recommended. His maxilla isn't "perfectly" forward and it is disingenuous to say so. But does this mean, that my whole face, including the cheekbones is recessed? They are barely visible & look flat & sunken in too. I still don’t know if it’s a recessed maxilla, high amount of buccal fat or just weak cheekbones that is giving the flat and puffy looks around my cheekbones. Many things but mostly when maxilla isn't being supported by mandible, when your mewing you're supporting maxilla with having teeth slightly touching but not clenching. If you can't get a side view of someone, another way to tell if someone's maxilla is recessed is to see if someone has eye bags under their eyes. Having a recessed maxilla degrades facial appearance. I’m bulking so my body fat is around 24%, I’m going to upload again when I finish the cut. So I've had braces for about 2 years now, I'm 15F and have noticed my maxilla being pushed in. I have read about a person who was treated with elastics and that caused their upper jaw to be pushed back. A hooked nose is not the absolute indicator of how recessed a maxilla is, rather, how far is the back of the nose from the front of the cheekbone. Mewing, mouth taping and posture. (M21-22)Hey 👋, do i have a recessed maxilla? ,and what would help me in my case? Plz any suggestions on how to fix it +not i have measured my mandible its pretty average +im wearing Bracess +and my front teeth are really down when i smile my gum starts showing . All of the models I mentioned have obvious face lengthening deformities listed out in John Mew’s diagnostic guide “reading the face”. I’m a be honest ik u think ur doing the right thing getting the braces but in reality you will worsen your dental arches and appearence more than likely, also your maxilla will be more recessed even though it isn’t right now, gonial angle and jaw projection are good I would leave it be and not let an ortho touch my face 63K subscribers in the orthotropics community. It’s genetic and I think it’s obvious too… you rarely ever see a black person with a recessed maxilla, Arabic people usually have a large nose with a bump in it, European ancestry often have smaller flat noses with Germanic/Norwegian having larger jaws and maxillas. You can tell her maxilla is recessed due to the saggy skin under her eyes. The shock in my case is that I looked worse after the treatment with braces because of the retractive movement of the upper jaw, my teeth aren't crooked, but face is really long, unattractive and I lost volume in my cheeks, I look awful and I'm angry cause I expected orthodontic work to move my jaws forward, nobody told me they'd do the opposite. New comments cannot be posted. Feel free to discuss remedies, research, technologies, hair transplants, hair systems, living with hair loss, cosmetic concealments, whether to "take the plunge" and shave your head, and how your treatment progress or shaved head or hairstyle looks. You'd keep this device anchored in your mouth for about 9 months. You can tell your maxilla is recessed relative to your mandible, especially with the lips positioning. Notice how your jaws, upper jaw and lower jaw are facing downwards. Paired with a narrow palate your designated to be subhuman and unsaveable. Sure, there’s the argument that once the MSE weakens the pterygomaxillary fissure and with enough force from the FM your maxilla can come forward 1-2mm. 2, In the case of the guy on the right, everything is well developed, the front part of the mandible is a little more far forward but that could be other 64K subscribers in the orthotropics community. I’ve had surgery Tuesday morning at 8:20am and was discharged the next morning at 10am. In this subreddit we discuss topics related to Orthotropics and Mewing with regards to humans of all ages. In this subreddit we discuss topics related to Orthotropics and Mewing with regards to humans of all… I guess so, I do have a recessed and narrow maxilla. As stated in the title, I’m unfortunately slightly recessed, more so in my mandible and chin but my maxillary projection isn’t great either. Your lower jaw or chin is recessed and probably your maxilla as well, and if your maxilla is underdeveloped but your nose is not, you will get a more hooked nose since it's pulled backwards into your face. My cheekbones are non visible. Correction: No, cause you can have high & wide zygos/cheekbones but a recessed maxilla in length (lack of forward growth) so if your lower front teeth are behind your upper teeth, like they should, but your maxilla/palate is lacking forward growth, you're mandible will be in a "recessed" position. Or check it out in the app stores Recessed maxilla, jaw and slightly recessed chin. recessed maxilla and mandible, what appliance would be best for me? i also have pretty severe tmj and have had it since i was 11 or 12 yo. By mewing you will stimulate the sutures and initiate growth of the maxilla, ideally. During childhood most kids still have good posture and they play, run, jump do a lot of body activity while tennager they start to spend 5 hour or more sitting in the school then more time playing video games/ computer. if it’s behind that line it’s major recessed, if it’s only slightly behind or near the line it’s slight recession Recessed maxilla? should i get Bimax? 17M I know that my lower third is recessed and i think my maxilla is too. Yet I have seen some people who I thought had a developed maxilla be described with bad growth. Of course there are other factors too (hydration, minerals, vitamin c, allergies, etc). I’m not trolling I was wondering if people thought this was a recessed maxilla or not I consider this guy to be extremely attractive and thought his maxilla was recessed slightly which is interesting since people see it’s one of the most important bones for attractiveness It seems most people confuse recessed chin with bad forward growth. sorry I put some stuff for my skin in the first pic Hypodontia causes the maxilla and or mandible or both to be recessed. Those people end up fighting a double chin that has nothing to do with weight gain. The position of the maxillary incisors definitely are not recessed, so your maxilla won't be significantly retruded, possibly there could be some crowding which artificially results in your incisors being more forward, but either way you're certainly more of a class 2 type of case (more significant mandibular hypoplasia). It screws into your palate and there's a jack screw in it that you turn, which forces your mid-palatal suture to split open and then expands your maxilla transversely. The gonial angle standards are consistent however and the mandible appears to be a little downswung, which indicates that he would benefit from additional maxilla projection. Orthotropics/Mewing is about promoting healthy craniofacial development via natural means. Or check it out in the app stores Will MARPE and braces help me fix my autism recessed maxilla 19 John Mew’s tropic principal negates things like “bad growth but good features” or “just a flat maxilla”. If your post breaks a rule, or repeats a question answered in the FAQ, you may be banned, so please read carefully. selfie is always a bad idea tbh 65K subscribers in the orthotropics community. There are studies including different races and their preferences in side profiles, for example Africans prefer a side profile with a bit of bimaxillary protrusion and recession. Will mewing help? I also have a dorsal hump as you can see. The maxilla for people of Asian descent does tend to be recessed compared to Europeans. IDEALLY, and by that I mean something UNLIKELY to be a reality, his maxilla could be placed more forward. In this subreddit we discuss topics related to Orthotropics and Mewing with regards to humans of all… If the gap is less or the line is near to straight, it is the case of a recessed maxilla. When the Maxilla has properly grown forward, the maxilla tightens the skin preventing wrinkles under the eye. Hit the falim gum hard 3-4 pieces at a time 3-4 times a day, chew it on your back molars hard and get those jaw muscles built up. Dude, even if you have recessed maxilla, which you don't, surgery is waaay worse. There is a device out there called the MSE (maxillary skeletal expander). In this subreddit we discuss topics related to Orthotropics and Mewing with regards to humans of all… He never had the best maxilla. In this subreddit we discuss topics related to Orthotropics and Mewing with regards to humans of all… A subreddit for a faction in the "Warhammer 40k" universe. Skulls are different the reason your under eye area is like that is normal for your recession. Second post forgot some of the pics I wish I never knew that I got a recessed maxilla I was doing fine in my life, always happy, my face changed a lot but i did'nt give a fuck because i thought it was because of the puberty And then I got health issues which lead me to see plenty of doctors and thenthey said me that because of bad posture my maxilla recessed and my lower I’m 23 so I think im past the age of braces effecting the bone development of my face heavily. I doubt it will do much. Tressless. Dr mew talks about how people in countries such as In this subreddit we discuss topics related to Orthotropics and Mewing with regards to humans of all ages. Reply reply It's so funny how beauty standards change. Mouth breathing does the opposite so you'll end up aging worse if you mouth breathe Your maxilla is quite recessed. Might be the picture quality which is causing this. after the treatment, he had a growth spurt and his lower jaw grew giving him an underbite. /r/Necrontyr's main purpose is to create a place where Necron lovers can gather and discuss fluff, table-top strategy, and show new players how to begin their journey as a Necron Overlord. I don't think the Bolton Standard can be used to judge growth. Or check it out in the app stores I feel like my maxilla could be recessed, I have a narrow palate As we know lefort 1 can't bring out the whole maxilla so how well does it address a recessed one? What about a high lefort 1? If a recessed maxilla would be corrected in children with headgear, would it actually bring out the whole maxilla or would it affect more the shape how the maxilla grows since it is only pulled from one spot? Yes she is recessed a little bit, he has kind of a flat maxilla and a little bit of bimaxillary protrusion both are ethnic asian traits by the way. Also, you neck must be straight in the picture. Do I have recessed maxilla. Also yes - maxilla is recessed and moving it forward will make your side-profile be more harmonious so don't be touching your nose before that. I would also recommend shaving down to about 3mm to help accentuate the jawline. com (*tress·less*, without hair) is the most popular community for males and females coping with hair loss. Probably you'll need double-jaw surgery though - rarely does moving only one jaw make for optimal results. Reply reply This is 100% no exaggeration of what my face looks like. (One of the topics that doctor Mike mew talked about). The purpose of this sub is to provide facial ratings of both men and women based on *objective factors*… 64K subscribers in the orthotropics community. My maxilla is still a little recessed, but I'm just happy I can sleep, breathe, and hold tongue posture comfortably. The main theme here is that it’s not possible to be attractive with a recessed maxilla and mandible, however it maybe possible to be attractive with ONLY 1 of these traits combined with nice features such as a nice nose, eye shape, lips etc. If you do a bimax / double-jaw surgery or similar where you advance the maxilla, your nose will most likely change shape. Be respectful and civil when posting/commenting in the subreddit. Dec 21, 2023 · DO NOT begin, delay, or discontinue treatments and/or exercises without licenced medical supervision. 264K subscribers in the truerateme community. The weird thing is how it really looks kind of recessed with a smaller cheekbone, more downturned eye, less undereye support and a maxilla that looks and feels kind of pushed back. The mandible (lower jaw) follows the maxilla (upper jaw). Title. It is decent, add to that his jawline, massesters, chin and eye shape. Slightly recessed chin as well as maxilla. People with good forward growth will not have recessed chins. If you're worried about your nose ask your surgeon if they do a sub-spinal LeFort, this helps a lot with that. Mew, work on body posture (more important than mewing) and do chin tucks. Btw, your maxilla is not super bad and you have a really good side profile but answering your question, yes your maxilla is recessed. I also had my wisdom teeth taken out when I was about 16 years old. I do have a diagnosed sleep apnea, as well as TMJ & will get surgery for it. The last picture is not me is similar to what they did to my face. It will cause your entire midface to be very forward grown compared to your chin, but neither of these mean you are recessed. It is not recessed in my opinion. Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. Lets say both parents have perfect maxilla, their child lacks vertical and forward growth of maxilla, but he always nose breathed? What would be the cause of this beside lack of gh? Both her maxilla and mandible are recessed and underdeveloped, it's just that her mandible is even further back. bnbs crkxdt sgxt geocrg xuas klfzfhk ymkatn gpmaot xqvy mfabmkw vzgh iwlpk fjqbq chpnvx tdbghc